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[theladyunicorn]

Hi,

I'm curious has anyone moved to the UK from elsewhere? I'm looking to do so but I'm wondering a few things. Mostly should I actually have a visa lined up before I go looking for a job or is it something that I would do later?

I can't actually find this sort of information anywhere.

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[naraht]

What citizenship do you hold? This makes a huge difference.

If you have been offered a skilled job in the UK you can apply for a Tier 2 visa but the company has to be willing to sponsor you, and to prove that no one within the UK can do/wants to do the job. This can be extremely difficult.

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/overview

Being able to work in the UK if you're not already an EU citizen is... not easy and requires a lot of research and hard work. And money.

[theladyunicorn]

Oops i knew I forgot something.

I'm australian and eligible for an ancestry visa

[theladyunicorn]

I've looked into it a lot i just couldn't figure out if i was supposed to get the visa before or after

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Hi,

I'm curious has anyone moved to the UK from elsewhere? I'm looking to do so but I'm wondering a few things. Mostly should I actually have a visa lined up before I go looking for a job or is it something that I would do later?

I can't actually find this sort of information anywhere. The reply was: What citizenship do you hold? This makes a huge difference.

If you have been offered a skilled job in the UK you can apply for a Tier 2 visa but the company has to be willing to sponsor you, and to prove that no one within the UK can do/wants to do the job. This can be extremely difficult.

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/overview [https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/overview]

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[theladyunicorn]

Oh thanks! I've just discovered this setting as you might have been able to guess

[pseudomonas]

Excellent. Sorry I have no constructive advice on Australian visas :-/

[theladyunicorn]

That's completely fine! I just figured this might be easier than dealing with beauracrats

[pseudomonas]

oh, god, yes, almost anything is. And it's precisely the sort of thing that this community's for - I just feel a bit curmudgeonly popping up to give tech suggestions without also having something useful to say in response to your question!

[theladyunicorn]

Don't worry i love tech advice and it was highly useful!!

[cesy]

For the ancestry visa, assuming it's like the NZ version, it's not linked to a job, just to your family. So you can get the visa first without needing a job, and you have more chance of getting a job if you can tell them you already have a visa. But obviously it's a fair amount of money to spend without a job, and your visa application will be helped by having a job. Some jobs will be understanding if you tell them you're eligible for ancestry visa and in the process, and will put you in the "don't need visa" pile rather than the "needs tier 2 sponsorship" pile. It's a bit of a catch-22.

[theladyunicorn]

THANK YOU. I figured that might be the situation but good to know for sure.

Thanks heapa

[cesy]

Yeah, as forthwritten said, the government want you to prove you're going to get a job, and the easiest way to do that is to have one already, but it can be done by showing you're applying and have good skills and CV. And the jobs want you to get your own visa without their help, and the easiest way to prove that is to have it already, but some will take your word for it on the ancestry. The system sucks.

[theladyunicorn]

/laughs like a maniac/ sorry somehow none of this surprises me at all. I guess I'll just roll with it and figure things out. I'm considering AU Pairing to at least get over there but after my recent surgery I lost all my money so I need to save up again so I have a bit of time to figure things out thankfully.

[swaldman]

This. I don't know much about the visa process but I've been affected by the hiring end, and "visa is sorted" is so much safer and less hassle than "needs sponsoring for visa" - the latter can take months and might not even happen in the end, and you need the job filled now...

But as others have mentioned, obviously moving without a job is a financial gamble.

[theladyunicorn]

Yeah I figured it might be safer to get the Vissa before hand but it also seemed pointless if I didn't have a job at least as an option? I just mentioned above but I'm also thinking of AU Pair'ing to get over there and then I'll see what I can do. Of course having my wisdom teeth out recently ate all my money so I have some time to figure it all out while I save up again.

[forthwritten]

Some information here:

https://www.gov.uk/ancestry-visa
http://www.1stcontact.com.au/uk-visas/uk-ancestral-visa.aspx

Most relevant is "You also need to show that you intend to work in the UK and can support yourself without recourse to UK public funds"

[theladyunicorn]

Thanks should have made it clearer. I've read what i can find but what i can't figure out if its best to apply for the visa before or after i get a job

[ephemera]

Being able to demonstrate that you hae the right to work in the UK is, under the new guidelines, a pre-requisite for being interiewed for a job let alone starting one (

Having some work leads lined up,even if it's just a list of temp agencies, would, I assume, help with the 'intending to work' clause quoted above when entering the country.

[theladyunicorn]

I figured that from what I was reading but good to know for sure.

I think I woudl like to at least have something lined up but at the same time I'm also thinking that even if I go the AU Pair route that will at least get me over there to search rather than searching from abroad which might be easier. I'm also thinking if I sign up to some agencies they'd help me move? I might look into that thanks :)