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Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 06:19 pm
Hi,

I'm curious has anyone moved to the UK from elsewhere? I'm looking to do so but I'm wondering a few things. Mostly should I actually have a visa lined up before I go looking for a job or is it something that I would do later?

I can't actually find this sort of information anywhere.
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Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 09:20 am (UTC)
What citizenship do you hold? This makes a huge difference.

If you have been offered a skilled job in the UK you can apply for a Tier 2 visa but the company has to be willing to sponsor you, and to prove that no one within the UK can do/wants to do the job. This can be extremely difficult.

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-general/overview

Being able to work in the UK if you're not already an EU citizen is... not easy and requires a lot of research and hard work. And money.
Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 09:39 am (UTC)
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Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 10:02 am (UTC)
Excellent. Sorry I have no constructive advice on Australian visas :-/
Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 10:16 am (UTC)
oh, god, yes, almost anything is. And it's precisely the sort of thing that this community's for - I just feel a bit curmudgeonly popping up to give tech suggestions without also having something useful to say in response to your question!
Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 11:20 am (UTC)

For the ancestry visa, assuming it's like the NZ version, it's not linked to a job, just to your family. So you can get the visa first without needing a job, and you have more chance of getting a job if you can tell them you already have a visa. But obviously it's a fair amount of money to spend without a job, and your visa application will be helped by having a job. Some jobs will be understanding if you tell them you're eligible for ancestry visa and in the process, and will put you in the "don't need visa" pile rather than the "needs tier 2 sponsorship" pile. It's a bit of a catch-22.

Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 11:43 am (UTC)

Yeah, as forthwritten said, the government want you to prove you're going to get a job, and the easiest way to do that is to have one already, but it can be done by showing you're applying and have good skills and CV. And the jobs want you to get your own visa without their help, and the easiest way to prove that is to have it already, but some will take your word for it on the ancestry. The system sucks.

Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 12:20 pm (UTC)
This. I don't know much about the visa process but I've been affected by the hiring end, and "visa is sorted" is so much safer and less hassle than "needs sponsoring for visa" - the latter can take months and might not even happen in the end, and you need the job filled now...

But as others have mentioned, obviously moving without a job is a financial gamble.
Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 11:22 am (UTC)
Some information here:

https://www.gov.uk/ancestry-visa
http://www.1stcontact.com.au/uk-visas/uk-ancestral-visa.aspx

Most relevant is "You also need to show that you intend to work in the UK and can support yourself without recourse to UK public funds"
Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 07:38 pm (UTC)
Being able to demonstrate that you hae the right to work in the UK is, under the new guidelines, a pre-requisite for being interiewed for a job let alone starting one (

Having some work leads lined up,even if it's just a list of temp agencies, would, I assume, help with the 'intending to work' clause quoted above when entering the country.